Legislature(2009 - 2010)CAPITOL 106

02/12/2009 03:00 PM House HEALTH & SOCIAL SERVICES


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03:03:49 PM Start
03:04:36 PM Presentation: Mental Health Comprehensive Plan
03:55:41 PM Alaska Mental Health Trust-bring the Kids Home
04:54:24 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
Mental Health Comprehensive Plan -
Mental Health Trust COO DeLisa Culpepper,
Commissioner Bill Hogan or Deputy
Commissioner Pat Hefley
Alaska Mental Health Trust - Bring the
Kids Home
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
      HOUSE HEALTH AND SOCIAL SERVICES STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                     
                       February 12, 2009                                                                                        
                           3:03 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bob Herron, Co-Chair                                                                                             
Representative Wes Keller, Co-Chair                                                                                             
Representative John Coghill                                                                                                     
Representative Bob Lynn                                                                                                         
Representative Paul Seaton                                                                                                      
Representative Sharon Cissna (via teleconference)                                                                               
Representative Lindsey Holmes                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION: MENTAL HEALTH COMPREHENSIVE PLAN                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
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PRESENTATION: ALASKA MENTAL HEALTH TRUST-BRING THE KIDS HOME                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
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PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
BILL HOGAN, Commissioner                                                                                                        
Office of the Commissioner                                                                                                      
Department of Health and Social Services (DHSS)                                                                                 
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Presented a Power Point and testified about                                                              
the mental health comprehensive plan.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
DELISA CULPEPPER, Chief Operating Officer                                                                                       
Alaska Mental Health Trust Authority (AMHTA)                                                                                    
Department of Revenue (DOR)                                                                                                     
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION   STATEMENT:     Testified  about   the  mental   health                                                             
comprehensive plan.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
JEFF JESSEE, Chief Executive Officer                                                                                            
Alaska Mental Health Trust Authority (AMHTA)                                                                                    
Department of Revenue (DOR)                                                                                                     
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:   Presented  a Power  Point and  testified on                                                             
Bringing The Kids Home (BTKH) initiative.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
KARIN SCHAFF, Adolescent Treatment Services Director                                                                            
Volunteers of America Alaska                                                                                                    
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified about  the Alaska Youth and Family                                                             
Network  (AYFN) and  the Adolescent  Residential Center  for Help                                                               
(ARCH).                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
KAREEM NOEL, Youth Navigator                                                                                                    
Alaska Youth and Family Network (AYFN)                                                                                          
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:     Testified  about  the   Youth  Navigator                                                             
program.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CARLA NICHOLAI, Youth Navigator                                                                                                 
Alaska Youth and Family Network (AYFN)                                                                                          
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:     Testified  about  the   Youth  Navigator                                                             
program.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:03:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR BOB HERRON  called the House Health  and Social Services                                                             
Standing   Committee    meeting   to    order   at    3:03   p.m.                                                               
Representatives Herron,  Keller, Seaton, and Holmes  were present                                                               
at the call to order.   Representatives Lynn, Coghill, and Cissna                                                               
(via teleconference) arrived as the meeting was in progress.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
^Presentation: Mental Health Comprehensive Plan                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:04:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HERRON announced that the  first order of business would                                                               
be a Power Point presentation  about the Comprehensive Integrated                                                               
Mental  Health  Plan  and the  Alaska  Scorecard  titled  "Moving                                                               
Forward."  [Included in the members' packets.]                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:05:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BILL HOGAN, Commissioner, Office  of the Commissioner, Department                                                               
of  Health and  Social  Services (DHSS),  spoke  about the  Power                                                               
Point titled  "Moving Forward."   He mentioned that the  DHSS had                                                               
decided to  post more  information and  regularly update  data on                                                               
its website.   He referred to slide  2, "Statutory Requirements,"                                                               
and stated that  DHSS must "prepare, and  periodically revise and                                                               
amend  a  plan  for  an integrated  comprehensive  mental  health                                                               
program."     He   summarized  that   this  included   plans  for                                                               
developmental disability,  alcoholism, and dementia.   He pointed                                                               
out  that  the  leadership  team   and  planning  group  included                                                               
representatives from  DHSS, Alaska  Mental Health Board,  and the                                                               
Department of Corrections,  as well as other  federal, state, and                                                               
private behavioral health  services, as listed on  slide 3, "Comp                                                               
Plan Leadership Team."                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
DELISA CULPEPPER,  Chief Operating Officer, Alaska  Mental Health                                                               
Trust Authority  (ANHTA), Department of Revenue  (DOR), explained                                                               
slide  4, "Comprehensive  Integrated  Mental Health  Plan:"   She                                                               
noted  that the  program  was  an online  tool  and  a source  of                                                               
information about the issues.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HERRON asked if it was currently operational.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. CULPEPPER  replied that it  had been operational on  the DHSS                                                               
website for  the last  few years.   She pointed  out that  it was                                                               
easier to  maintain an  on-line updated plan  with all  its links                                                               
rather than a printed plan.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:10:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CULPEPPER  noted  that slide  5  "Populations,"  listed  the                                                               
targeted  populations,  which  included people  with  alcoholism,                                                               
mental  illness,  and  brain  injuries.     She  added  that  the                                                               
comprehensive   plan  included   programs   from  prevention   to                                                               
treatment.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. HOGAN further  explained that the plan included  data for the                                                               
prevalence of  people suffering from alcoholism,  mental illness,                                                               
etc as  seen on slide 6,  "What is in  the Comp Plan?"   He noted                                                               
that information was included on,  among others, substance abuse,                                                               
suicide, and  housing.   He reported  that there  was information                                                               
defining the  current system of  care, and detailing  the current                                                               
initiatives and emerging issues.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:11:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON  asked  if  autism  was  included  in  the                                                               
comprehensive plan.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HOGAN  responded  that  although   autism  was  not  listed,                                                               
Department of Health  and Social Services (DHSS)  worked with the                                                               
Alaska Mental Health Trust Authority  (AMHTA) to provide services                                                               
for each child.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS.   CULPEPPER   confirmed   that  people   with   autism   were                                                               
beneficiaries  of AMHTA  as it  was  both a  developmental and  a                                                               
behavioral disability.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON  asked  to  verify  that  autism  was  not                                                               
falling through the crack.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. CULPEPPER responded that autism was a beneficiary.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. HOGAN reported on the  consideration of a Medicaid waiver for                                                               
autism which  would increase the  likelihood for reception  of an                                                               
array of services.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:14:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. CULPEPPER directed attention  to slide 7, "Alaska Scorecard:"                                                               
and explained  that this was a  report on the performance  of the                                                               
mental health  program.  She  pointed out the key  indicators and                                                               
the sources for data.  She  confirmed that both the Comp Plan and                                                               
the Alaska Scorecard provided direction for policy and planning.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:16:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. CULPEPPER  called attention  to the  website for  the "Moving                                                               
Forward Plan."                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:17:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HOGAN  referred  to the  handout  "Comprehensive  Integrated                                                               
Mental  Health  Plan."    [Included  in  members'  packets]    He                                                               
elaborated that  the vision and  the purpose  of the plan  was to                                                               
direct  resource  allocation  and  to ensure  availability  of  a                                                               
comprehensive  service  system  for   AMHTA  beneficiaries.    He                                                               
directed  attention  to  the Boards  and  Commissions  that  DHSS                                                               
worked with and he indicated the target population of the plan.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:18:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. CULPEPPER referenced the "Moving  Forward Plan" and mentioned                                                               
that the blue hyperlinks allowed direct  access to the data.  She                                                               
reported that  AMHTA was  proud of  its results  in the  areas of                                                               
Health, Safety, Living with Dignity, and Economic Security.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:20:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. HOGAN explained  the Client Status Review Form.   He reported                                                               
that it was not  enough to be clean and sober,  but that a person                                                               
needed to have  a good job, a  place to live, to stay  out of the                                                               
criminal justice system,  and to be a contributing  member of the                                                               
community.   He remarked that  the true outcome of  the treatment                                                               
plans was for recovery and contributing membership in society.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:23:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. CULPEPPER emphasized  that the success of  the treatment plan                                                               
was also  attributable to assessment and  result measurement; all                                                               
of which lead to betterment for the recipients' lives.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:24:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HOGAN,  in  response  to  Co-Chair  Keller,  explained  that                                                               
funding for  behavioral health was  shifting, that  providers had                                                               
to  show true  outcomes, and  that funding  was linked  to proven                                                               
results.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:26:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  KELLER opined  that this  was  exactly what  government                                                               
should  be  doing,  taking  care  of those  who  could  not  help                                                               
themselves.   He expressed  his concern  for a  clear delineation                                                               
between  a  volitional  choice   and  an  agency  declaration  of                                                               
helplessness.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:27:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. CULPEPPER reviewed  the history of AMHTA, and  noted that the                                                               
state  now had  responsibility to  fund  the base  of the  mental                                                               
health program and treatment.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:30:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. HOGAN,  in response to Representative  Seaton, explained that                                                               
there was enough  information to show either  improvement, or the                                                               
need for additional resources.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. CULPEPPER added that the FY08 data would soon be available.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:32:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. HOGAN,  in response to Representative  Herron, explained that                                                               
the plan focused  on mental health trust  beneficiaries, but that                                                               
providers  also  served  people  who  did  not  have  as  serious                                                               
problems.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  HERRON  asked for  a  way  to  access people  who  were                                                               
unaware of this plan.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. HOGAN explained that the client  filled out the plan with the                                                               
case manager, and that this plan  was reviewed every three to six                                                               
months.    He  reported  that  it was  a  requirement  for  every                                                               
behavioral health client to use this  tool.  He allowed that this                                                               
was not  required for  community health  centers and  many others                                                               
outside the behavioral health system.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. CULPEPPER  added that  it was only  required of  people using                                                               
the  public health  system and  it  did not  include the  private                                                               
industry.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:36:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. HOGAN  described the current  array of services as  a pyramid                                                               
with a  foundation built on community  prevention, education, and                                                               
public  awareness.    He  shared   that  the  philosophy  of  the                                                               
community based system  was to keep people in their  own home and                                                               
to receive the right kind of service in a timely fashion.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:37:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. CULPEPPER  explained that  there was a  matrix to  direct the                                                               
type of services at each level.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. HOGAN  affirmed the DHSS priorities:  substance abuse, health                                                               
and wellness, health care reform,  long term care, and vulnerable                                                               
Alaskans.  He explained that  the Comprehensive Integrated Mental                                                               
Health Plan structured each of these  areas.  He confirmed that a                                                               
person could  go to the  website and  click on the  problem; this                                                               
would  describe the  problem,  explain the  need  to address  the                                                               
problem, and detail the efforts and outcomes to date.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:39:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. HOGAN, in response to  Co-Chair Herron, agreed to investigate                                                               
the number of visits to the programs on the website.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CULPEPPER  pointed out  that  the  initiatives were  updated                                                               
every year.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:41:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. HOGAN commented on the two  issues DHSS was preparing for: an                                                               
increase for Medicare payment rates,  and the number of returning                                                               
veterans with  traumatic brain injury  and post  traumatic stress                                                               
disorder.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:43:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HOLMES  relayed  a problem  that  National  Guard                                                               
members  upon return  to inactive  status,  after being  released                                                               
from active duty,  were not being covered by  the Veterans Health                                                               
Administration.  She asked if DHSS was aware of this.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HOGAN offered  his  belief that  many  individuals would  be                                                               
eligible  for services  through the  Alaska Native  Tribal Health                                                               
Consortium.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:45:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HERRON asked  if traumatic brain injury  was forecast as                                                               
a future problem.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. HOGAN  agreed that DHSS recognized  it was a problem  and was                                                               
determining the best  system of services.  He  offered his belief                                                               
that  the  problem  was  much   more  substantial  than  commonly                                                               
thought.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CULPEPPER noted  that sport  injuries, including  those from                                                               
motorized  sport vehicles,  also contributed  to traumatic  brain                                                               
injuries.   She  directed attention  back  to the  index and  the                                                               
"Alaska Scorecard" [Included in  members' packets].  She observed                                                               
that the "Alaska Scorecard" reviewed  the status of beneficiaries                                                               
and would be updated every year.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CULPEPPER,  responding  to   a  question  by  Representative                                                               
Seaton,  explained   that  the   down  arrows   indicated  "Needs                                                               
Improvement."   She  referred to  the "Key  to [the]  Scorecard,"                                                               
which   listed   the   inputs  used   for   making   the   status                                                               
determination.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:52:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. HOGAN  explained that the  "Alaska Scorecard" was a  one page                                                               
snapshot by  DHSS that indicated  measurement of the  progress in                                                               
each area.   He suggested that this initial scorecard  be used as                                                               
a baseline.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. CULPEPPER  reminded the  committee that  the scorecard  was a                                                               
comparison of  Alaska to the rest  of the nation, not  solely for                                                               
the  performance   of  an  individual  program.     She  directed                                                               
attention to  the hyperlinks  listed on the  back page  which she                                                               
said connected to a wealth of information.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:55:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
^Alaska Mental Health Trust-Bring the Kids Home                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:55:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HERRON announced  that the next order  of business would                                                               
be a Power  Point presentation by the Alaska  Mental Health Trust                                                               
Authority on the Bring the Kids Home initiative.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:56:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JEFF JESSEE, Chief Executive Officer,  Alaska Mental Health Trust                                                               
Authority (AMHTA), Department of  Revenue (DOR) presented a Power                                                               
Point titled  "Bringing (Keeping) the Kids  Home Update- February                                                               
2009"  [Included  in  the  members'  packets].    He  lauded  the                                                               
leadership of Brita Bishop and Bill Herman with this initiative.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:59:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. JESSEE directed attention to  slide 2, "Exponential Growth in                                                               
Use  of Out-of  State Residential  Psychiatric Treatment  Centers                                                               
(RPTC),"  and  pointed  out  the  prior  exponential  growth  for                                                               
placement  of kids  in out  of state  RPTCs.   He explained  that                                                               
previously there  had not  been a plan  to increase  the in-state                                                               
capacity  for these  kids.   He gave  an example  of the  lack of                                                               
oversight  for   fiscal  responsibility  that  the   program  had                                                               
engendered.    He  credited former  Commissioner  Gilbertson  for                                                               
initiating the change.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:03:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JESSEE  furnished  slide  3,  "Progress:  Decrease  in  RPTC                                                               
Admissions," which  diagramed the recent  changes for in  and out                                                               
of  state custody.    He  commented that  this  was  a result  of                                                               
investment  in  residential  programs, individual  and  community                                                               
based  services, and  a systems  redesign  for children's  mental                                                               
health.  He offered his belief  that the continuum of care should                                                               
have been started  with an array of services at  the family home.                                                               
He  indicated, should  that care  have proved  unsuccessful, that                                                               
the  next stage  of care  should have  been residential  services                                                               
within the  community.   He allowed  that a  gradual build  up of                                                               
this program  would have  meant that  only a  few kids  each year                                                               
would  have  been  sent  out  of  state.    He  opined  that  the                                                               
legislature  would   not  have  funded  the   early  intervention                                                               
strategies.  He explained that  home and community based services                                                               
were the most effective and cost efficient.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JESSEE noted  that  early  community intervention  treatment                                                               
reflected a  decrease in the  recidivism rate, as shown  on slide                                                               
4, "Progress: Length of Stay and Recidivism."                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:06:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. JESSEE referred to slide  5, "Progress: Medicaid Expenditures                                                               
for  Residential  Psychiatric  Treatment Centers  (RPTC),"  which                                                               
showcased the  shift in RPTC  expenditures as  in-state treatment                                                               
increased.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JESSEE   moved  to  slide   6,  "Progress:   Projected  BTKH                                                               
Reinvestment," which  reflected re-investment of dollars  in more                                                               
appropriate  levels of  service within  the community  and within                                                               
the state.   He noted that the strategy might  not cost less, but                                                               
the  reinvestment  in  Alaskan families  and  services  would  be                                                               
better for Alaska at all levels of the system.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. JESSEE  noted slide  7, "Ahead  in FY  2010: Support  for On-                                                               
going Efforts,"  and said that more  than 40 percent of  youth in                                                               
RPTC  are Alaska  Native.   He expressed  the need  to work  with                                                               
tribal partners for better connectedness and cultural service.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HERRON asked about the  representation from other ethnic                                                               
groups.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JESSEE  said  there  was a  high  correlation  between  RPTC                                                               
patients and low socio-economic conditions.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:11:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. JESSEE  described slide  8, "Ahead  in FY2010:  Expanding In-                                                               
State Capacity," and  warned that transitional aged  youth was an                                                               
area  that  needed   improvement.    He  pointed   out  that  the                                                               
development of  an Alaska system  of care resulted in  a Medicaid                                                               
match savings for FY2010.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:13:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KARIN SCHAFF, Adolescent  Treatment Services Director, Volunteers                                                               
of  America Alaska,  spoke  about two  programs  involved in  the                                                               
initiative.  She selected slide  9, "Volunteers of America Alaska                                                               
ARCH program,"  and explained  that ARCH  was a  treatment center                                                               
for  youth  with substance  use  disorders  and severe  emotional                                                               
disturbances.  She  called attention to the new state  of the art                                                               
treatment facility.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:15:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SCHAFF moved  to slide  10, "Volunteers  of America  Alaska-                                                               
ARCH program,"  and shared that  the new facility had  more beds,                                                               
and a  mental health service.   She explained that the  focus was                                                               
for family involvement and transition back into the community.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:16:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SCHAFF  spoke about  slide  11,  "Assertive Continuing  Care                                                               
(ACC)," and mentioned that ACC  was a community based program and                                                               
one of  the first  pilot projects  in the  BTKH initiative.   She                                                               
said that  the ACC focused  on sustaining the results  from other                                                               
residential programs, so that the  kids would be successful.  She                                                               
explained that  the kids  coming from  these other  programs were                                                               
tired of counseling and counselors, so  the ACC staff would go to                                                               
them and work on  the kids' goals.  She also  spoke about the new                                                               
program with McLaughlin Youth Center.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:18:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SCHAFF, in  response  to  Representative Coghill,  explained                                                               
that the  58 percent  program completion  rate was  measured once                                                               
the youth left  McLaughlin Youth Center.  She  explained that the                                                               
ACC program started  while the youth were in the  youth center in                                                               
order to help develop a relationship.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:19:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. SCHAFF, in response to  Representative Seaton, explained that                                                               
the  ACC program  was  an evidence  based  practice designed  for                                                               
youth  with  severe  emotional  disturbances  and  substance  use                                                               
disorders.  She conveyed that  it consisted of family counseling,                                                               
case  management,   and  group  and  individual   counseling  all                                                               
designed  around the  youth, as  opposed to  putting them  into a                                                               
program.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LYNN  asked what  programs the  youth go  to after                                                               
they leave McLaughlin  Youth Center, and what  was the recidivism                                                               
rate.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:22:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. SCHAFF said that the youth  center served kids up to 18 years                                                               
of age, and after that, some of  them go back to school for their                                                               
GED.  She  explained that the 58 percent completion  rate was for                                                               
kids who did  not reoffend and did not return  to the institution                                                               
for 6  months.   She explained  the transience  of the  kids, and                                                               
that  it  was  difficult  to  find them  after  6  months.    She                                                               
mentioned that  the residential  program had had  kids go  off to                                                               
college and then return to work as program supervisors.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:23:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HOLMES  asked  if   all  the  kids  came  through                                                               
juvenile justice.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. SCHAFF responded that the youth  in the ACC program came from                                                               
out of state residential treatment  centers, in state residential                                                               
treatment  centers, intensive  treatment outpatient  centers, and                                                               
McLaughlin Youth Center.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:24:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COGHILL asked  about the  levels of  care at  the                                                               
psychiatric treatment centers.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. JESSEE  noted that,  previously, when kids  were sent  out of                                                               
state to  the RPTC, they  were put in in-patient  intensive care.                                                               
He said that not  all the kids needed this level  of care, but at                                                               
that  time there  were no  in-state options  for lower  levels of                                                               
care.   He said  that some  of the  kids could  now come  back to                                                               
lower levels of  care, such as group or foster  homes.  He stated                                                               
that when  intermediate care  levels are  provided, it  can often                                                               
preclude in-patient services.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:27:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COGHILL  remarked that the  state had set  up some                                                               
treatment  centers  for  different  levels.     He  asked  for  a                                                               
description to each of the levels of care.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:28:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. SCHAFF  explained that the Residential  Psychiatric Treatment                                                               
Centers  were  considered Level  5.    She  noted that  ARCH  was                                                               
considered Level  3.  She shared  that many youth who  had failed                                                               
in the Level 5 RPT centers  were successful in Level 3 because of                                                               
their  needs.   She reported  that the  community based  programs                                                               
were Level 1 and Level 2.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COGHILL  opined  that  things  were  better  than                                                               
previously.   He  inquired if  the non-profits  would often  seek                                                               
placement into the highest level.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:29:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JESSEE agreed  that  this was  a problem.    He described  a                                                               
private  Fairbanks   facility,  and  noted  its   request  for  a                                                               
Certificate of  Need for  the entire  120 bed  facility to  be at                                                               
Level  5.   He  said  that  an  examination had  determined  that                                                               
regional bed needs  were only necessary for 44 beds.   He offered                                                               
his opinion that  the Certificate of Need  process was essential.                                                               
He confirmed that  the private Fairbanks facility  had received a                                                               
Level 5 Certificate  of Need for 44 beds, but  that the remainder                                                               
of its beds  could be offered as  Level 3 and Level 4.   He noted                                                               
that  the facility  was currently  only filling  twenty-something                                                               
beds.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:32:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COGHILL  observed that  he had concerns  with both                                                               
the non-profit and for profit  organizations' assignment of care,                                                               
and asked if  management always gravitated to  assignment for the                                                               
highest level of care.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:33:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. JESSEE  explained that  a lot of  the residential  beds which                                                               
the state  used were  in group  homes.   He mentioned  that these                                                               
Level 3 group homes were similar  to family homes, and that these                                                               
facilities  could be  sold  as family  homes  should the  state's                                                               
needs diminish.   He clarified  that this allowed service  for an                                                               
appropriate level, as  there was not a need to  fill unused beds.                                                               
He opined that the state  rewarded the institutional providers at                                                               
the expense of  the community based provider.   He acknowledged a                                                               
current bill in  the legislature which would  allow hospitals and                                                               
nursing homes  an automatic rate  review and  adjustment, whereas                                                               
community  based providers  would not  be allowed  this automatic                                                               
rate adjustment.  He opined that this was bad public policy.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:35:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JESSEE  quickly reviewed  slide  12,  "Mat Su  Demonstration                                                               
Project,"  and slide  13,  "Mat Su  Demonstration  Results."   He                                                               
mentioned  that  care coordination,  the  better  use of  current                                                               
services,  was important  in maintaining  youth stability  within                                                               
the community.   He remarked that the Mat Su  project was working                                                               
with  26 families,  and its  success had  been to  transition the                                                               
kids home 87 days earlier than originally planned.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:36:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KAREEM  NOEL, Youth  Navigator, Alaska  Youth and  Family Network                                                               
(AYFN),  spoke   about  his  background   in  foster   homes  and                                                               
residential  treatment centers.   He  explained that  his current                                                               
role  as  a youth  navigator  for  the  Alaska Youth  and  Family                                                               
Network  had allowed  him to  see that  his life  had value.   He                                                               
acknowledged that  the support of  family, friends, and  AYFN had                                                               
allowed him  to be successful  and a positive contributor  to his                                                               
community.   He asked  the committee to  continue to  fund "Bring                                                               
The Kids Home,"  and to increase the funding  for community based                                                               
groups, such as AYFN.   He emphasized that these programs allowed                                                               
youth and  families to be  successful and to rebuild  their lives                                                               
and relationships.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:40:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CARLA NICHOLAI, Youth Navigator,  Alaska Youth and Family Network                                                               
(AYFN), spoke  about her background  which included abuse  by her                                                               
biological  family, foster  care, and  diagnosis of  co-occurring                                                               
disorders.   She  declared that  AYFN and  other community  based                                                               
services had  made her  success possible.   She  proudly detailed                                                               
her current role as a  Youth Navigator, an Alaskan Native student                                                               
at University of  Alaska Anchorage (UAA), and  a cherished member                                                               
of  her  adopted family.    She  affirmed  her dream  of  looking                                                               
forward  to helping  others.   She  opined  that community  based                                                               
services would  help Alaska youth, and  noted that it "was  not a                                                               
hand  out, but  a hand  up."   She appealed  to the  committee to                                                               
continue  support  for  community   based  services  because  her                                                               
experience showed that this brought success to Alaskan youth.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:44:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HERRON  asked each of  them to  relate a story  or event                                                               
that made them realize how glad they were to be navigators.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  NICHOLAI offered  her  appreciation  for everyone's  support                                                               
here in Juneau.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. NOEL declared that his work  with AYFN would help another kid                                                               
become a better person.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:47:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HOLMES   asked  each  how  long   they  had  been                                                               
navigators and how many navigators were there.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. NICHOLAI shared that she had  started being a navigator a few                                                               
months ago.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. NOEL reported that he had been a navigator for a month.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. NICHOLAI said  that there were two navigators in  the Mat Su,                                                               
and that  there were three  navigators with a  youth coordinator,                                                               
in Anchorage.   She offered  her belief  that there was  a parent                                                               
navigator in Fairbanks.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:50:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON  asked how  many  youth  they each  worked                                                               
with.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. NOEL explained  that he worked with multiple  youth, and that                                                               
the group met each week.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. NICHOLAI  reported that  she worked  with multiple  youth and                                                               
that each  week she met with  a class that dealt  with prevention                                                               
of  the stigma  for mental  health diagnosis.   She  allowed that                                                               
this class  was a safe place  for the participants to  talk.  She                                                               
disclosed that  her life goal  was to  help others deal  with the                                                               
same issues she had.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON asked about the variability of group size                                                                 
each week.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. NOEL said that sometimes he would have 2-3 people, sometimes                                                                
5, and occasionally there were 10 kids.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. NICHOLAI reported the same variability, though usually there                                                                
were 5-6 kids each week.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. NOEL said that the regular attendance was increasing.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:54:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business before the committee, the House                                                                 
Health and Social Services Standing Committee meeting was                                                                       
adjourned at 4:54 p.m.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                

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